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	<title>Comments on: Windows Proposes to Cut Internet Explorer</title>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.belshe.com/2009/06/12/windows-proposes-to-cut-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-49823</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about this, the more obvious it becomes that this move simply amounts to a price increase for Microsoft Windows.  It&#039;s quite clever, actually!  Let&#039;s play it out.

1) Microsoft ships Windows 7 E, without IE.

2) Distributors now solicit bids from all vendors (Google, Microsoft, Opera, Mozilla) for putting the vendor&#039;s browser onto the distributor&#039;s software bundle.  Microsoft and Google have the most cash, but Microsoft simply out-bids everyone by a wide margin.

Why does Microsoft out-bid the field?  Because Microsoft is the only vendor already receiving revenues for every machine sold because they&#039;re getting Windows royalties.   If Microsoft gets $50 per copy of Windows, they can simply subsidize IE distribution with that revenue.  Any other vendor (Mozilla, Google, etc) is paying incremental out-of-pocket, whereas Microsoft has an extra $50 per copy to throw in the mix.

3) In the long run, Microsoft simply passes this cost back to the user by increasing the cost of Microsoft Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about this, the more obvious it becomes that this move simply amounts to a price increase for Microsoft Windows.  It&#8217;s quite clever, actually!  Let&#8217;s play it out.</p>
<p>1) Microsoft ships Windows 7 E, without IE.</p>
<p>2) Distributors now solicit bids from all vendors (Google, Microsoft, Opera, Mozilla) for putting the vendor&#8217;s browser onto the distributor&#8217;s software bundle.  Microsoft and Google have the most cash, but Microsoft simply out-bids everyone by a wide margin.</p>
<p>Why does Microsoft out-bid the field?  Because Microsoft is the only vendor already receiving revenues for every machine sold because they&#8217;re getting Windows royalties.   If Microsoft gets $50 per copy of Windows, they can simply subsidize IE distribution with that revenue.  Any other vendor (Mozilla, Google, etc) is paying incremental out-of-pocket, whereas Microsoft has an extra $50 per copy to throw in the mix.</p>
<p>3) In the long run, Microsoft simply passes this cost back to the user by increasing the cost of Microsoft Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Shahine</title>
		<link>http://www.belshe.com/2009/06/12/windows-proposes-to-cut-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-49805</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar Shahine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The browser is still in the OS, WinInet, Trident, TriEdit etc. Just the chrome is gone.

For all intents and purposes the browser is an SDK that ships with Windows. That part is still there. Apps are written to expect those components to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The browser is still in the OS, WinInet, Trident, TriEdit etc. Just the chrome is gone.</p>
<p>For all intents and purposes the browser is an SDK that ships with Windows. That part is still there. Apps are written to expect those components to work.</p>
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		<title>By: imma</title>
		<link>http://www.belshe.com/2009/06/12/windows-proposes-to-cut-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-49798</link>
		<dc:creator>imma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows isn&#039;t really the same operating system it used to be - separation could now be much simpler ;-)
I would love to see what happens if neither side backs down on this, although given the existing spread of computers &amp; browsers it should be simple for users to get a browser off someone else who already has a connection even if computer stores don&#039;t start stocking them for free/really cheap ;-)
 - imma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows isn&#8217;t really the same operating system it used to be &#8211; separation could now be much simpler <img src='http://www.belshe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I would love to see what happens if neither side backs down on this, although given the existing spread of computers &amp; browsers it should be simple for users to get a browser off someone else who already has a connection even if computer stores don&#8217;t start stocking them for free/really cheap <img src='http://www.belshe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
 &#8211; imma</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Ruscoe</title>
		<link>http://www.belshe.com/2009/06/12/windows-proposes-to-cut-internet-explorer/comment-page-1/#comment-49774</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Ruscoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if Windows doesn&#039;t ship with a web browser, how do you go about downloading Chrome? You can&#039;t buy it in a shop. Will it come through my door on a free CD like AOL 10 years ago?

P.S. Being British, I had to Google how many cents are in one nickel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if Windows doesn&#8217;t ship with a web browser, how do you go about downloading Chrome? You can&#8217;t buy it in a shop. Will it come through my door on a free CD like AOL 10 years ago?</p>
<p>P.S. Being British, I had to Google how many cents are in one nickel.</p>
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