Comments on: Multi-lingual ballots are a bad idea http://www.belshe.com/2007/04/16/multi-lingual-ballots-are-a-bad-idea/ Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:01:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: mike http://www.belshe.com/2007/04/16/multi-lingual-ballots-are-a-bad-idea/#comment-4120 mike Fri, 04 May 2007 23:09:55 +0000 http://www.belshe.com/2007/04/16/multi-lingual-ballots-are-a-bad-idea/#comment-4120 I think you might be referring to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo" rel="nofollow">Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo</a>, which some groups claim requires the US to "respect the culture" (including the languaage) of Mexicans affected by the treaty. I'm no legal expert, but I don't believe this applies today. Or maybe there was some other treaty which you are referring to. If so, that might change my stance, but I suspect these are false arguments from groups that want to prevent single-language ballots. The "infinite number of ways to phrase anything" is exactly my point. The specific clauses of each law are subtle and have meaning. Introducing subjectivity into Section I, Paragraph 2, Sentence 4 can change the way a judge would interpret that law. If it could cause two interpretations because of the word choice, then we cannot allow it. Since word choice is subjective, I do not believe there is any way to provide "oversight" that is unbiased. I'd be interested in what process we do use today. The author of the translation has as much power as the original author of the law. I think you might be referring to the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which some groups claim requires the US to “respect the culture” (including the languaage) of Mexicans affected by the treaty. I’m no legal expert, but I don’t believe this applies today. Or maybe there was some other treaty which you are referring to. If so, that might change my stance, but I suspect these are false arguments from groups that want to prevent single-language ballots.

The “infinite number of ways to phrase anything” is exactly my point. The specific clauses of each law are subtle and have meaning. Introducing subjectivity into Section I, Paragraph 2, Sentence 4 can change the way a judge would interpret that law. If it could cause two interpretations because of the word choice, then we cannot allow it. Since word choice is subjective, I do not believe there is any way to provide “oversight” that is unbiased. I’d be interested in what process we do use today. The author of the translation has as much power as the original author of the law.

]]> By: Adrian http://www.belshe.com/2007/04/16/multi-lingual-ballots-are-a-bad-idea/#comment-4073 Adrian Wed, 02 May 2007 13:18:37 +0000 http://www.belshe.com/2007/04/16/multi-lingual-ballots-are-a-bad-idea/#comment-4073 I've heard that the treaty with Mexico that made California part of the United States requires that important government documents be made available in Spanish. If you want to nix Spanish ballots (and DMV tests, etc.), then the President will have to go back to the bargaining table with Mexico and get Congress to ratify the new agreement. True, translations can vary. But even in English, there are an infinite number of ways to phrase anything. As long as there is oversight and the election materials accurately convey the facts of the candidates and the propositions, I don't see the problem. I’ve heard that the treaty with Mexico that made California part of the United States requires that important government documents be made available in Spanish. If you want to nix Spanish ballots (and DMV tests, etc.), then the President will have to go back to the bargaining table with Mexico and get Congress to ratify the new agreement.

True, translations can vary. But even in English, there are an infinite number of ways to phrase anything. As long as there is oversight and the election materials accurately convey the facts of the candidates and the propositions, I don’t see the problem.

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